Finally a 22 LR self defense round that does pack a "punch" for those shooters that carry a "mouse gun" caliber for protection. I know a 22 LR is frowned upon for self defense but my good friend Barry a retired police officer says he's never heard any naysayer offer to stand in front of one these and take a round!! The 29 grain flat nose bullet produces a very good wound channel and penetration in gel for its size, see YouTube video by "Plinkster22". Miwall again comes thru with ammo availability and at the best price on the internet today. I've come back a bought 2 cases....just in case. Thanks again, Barry, Federal and MiWall...a winning combo in my book.